<![CDATA[BirdingNZ.net]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum Sat, 23 Jun 2018 14:27:38 +1200 Smartfeed Extension for phpBB 3.1 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/styles/elegance_birding/theme/images/birdingnz-net-logo.png <![CDATA[BirdingNZ.net]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum en-GB Sat, 23 Jun 2018 14:27:38 +1200 60 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: RFI on some species breeding near Hamilton :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36981#p36981
How much detail do you need? I just wrote up an in-depth assessment with links to eBird records but some how accidentally deleted it before sending--urg! So here is the brief version.

I've recorded scaup nesting only twice (that I can recall)--Horahora Bridge (Karapiro) and a small roadside dam near the Cambridge industrial park.

I believe all 3 species of shag nest in Whangamarino and in the Haworth Memorial Reserve in Te Aroha but I've never noted them anywhere else.

Fernbird are at Moanatuatua but also around Lake Serpentine (which is easier to access), plus the coastal harbours. Banded Rail are also in some pockets of the west coast harbours though I've never had them inland.

Marsh Crake are at Ngaroto and that's about it as far as I can tell (Plus Whangamarino). I would bet they're at Taharoa but haven't properly surveyed it.

I have yet to find a booming bittern near Hamilton (away from Whangamarino) but I believe Liam had one at Rotokauri last summer.

Russ C
Morrinsville, NZ]]>
no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36981#p36981 Thu, 24 May 2018 19:15:21 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36981#p36981
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: RFI on some species breeding near Hamilton :: Reply by Liam Ballard]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36982#p36982 ]]> no_email@example.com (Liam Ballard) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36982#p36982 Thu, 24 May 2018 21:17:01 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36982#p36982 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: RFI on some species breeding near Hamilton :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36984#p36984 https://monicalogues.com/2015/09/14/lak ... -projects/]]> no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36984#p36984 Fri, 25 May 2018 08:13:35 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36984#p36984 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: RFI on some species breeding near Hamilton :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36987#p36987 The bitterns at Rotokauri are very interesting. I knew (from reports here) that it was good for spotless crakes but bittern is next level. This place needs more attention.
David, thanks for the heads up on Lake Koromatua. I'll ask Monica for clarification.]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36987#p36987 Fri, 25 May 2018 11:57:22 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36987#p36987
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: RFI on some species breeding near Hamilton :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36996#p36996 no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36996#p36996 Sat, 26 May 2018 14:04:25 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=36996#p36996 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: RFI on some species breeding near Hamilton :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=37005#p37005 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=37005#p37005 Mon, 28 May 2018 10:49:26 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7764&p=37005#p37005 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Birds on boats. :: Reply by zarkov]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7719&p=37009#p37009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Clare

He talks about the number of birds that commonly travel aboard the container ships he's been on, which I thought pretty interesting.

Mainly Swallows, but several other species that make complete voyages to different countries, aboard these floating habitats.

It suggest that the idea of vagrant birds usually arriving here under their own steam probably needs rethinking.]]>
no_email@example.com (zarkov) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7719&p=37009#p37009 Mon, 28 May 2018 21:04:31 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7719&p=37009#p37009
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Banded Rail under kanuka in Northland :: Author Weka1]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37020#p37020
Short video of a Banded Rail under a kanuka canopy on the Russell Peninsula, Northland. I've been using trail cameras for 3 1/2 years. This is the first video of Banded Rail the cameras have taken. A landscape scale pest control has been initiated here and possibly this sighting could be a result of that. These rails are often thought of as being wetland, especially saline, specialists but maybe given half a chance they can extend their habitat preference?]]>
no_email@example.com (Weka1) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37020#p37020 Tue, 29 May 2018 22:04:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37020#p37020
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Banded Rail under kanuka in Northland :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37028#p37028 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37028#p37028 Wed, 30 May 2018 12:23:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37028#p37028 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Banded Rail under kanuka in Northland :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37029#p37029
We had a similar experience on Urapukapuka island where we heard a banded rail calling in the Manuka scrub not far off the ridgeline track. And as Neil has mentioned they’re everywhere on great barrier. Almost like chickens!]]>
no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37029#p37029 Wed, 30 May 2018 13:29:58 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37029#p37029
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Banded Rail under kanuka in Northland :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37033#p37033 no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37033#p37033 Wed, 30 May 2018 16:52:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37033#p37033 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Banded Rail under kanuka in Northland :: Reply by zarkov]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37036#p37036
Pest control is pretty rudimentary up there, and stoats were resident in the area.]]>
no_email@example.com (zarkov) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37036#p37036 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:38:40 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37036#p37036
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Banded Rail under kanuka in Northland :: Reply by Weka1]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37041#p37041 Oliver (1930) states of the Banded Rail…"generally distributed through the North, South and Stewart Islands…suffering much from the rats"…So rat control may make a difference. Now mainly limited to northern New Zealand, a big change in distribution in 90 years.

I too have seen these birds, a different subspecies admittedly, on Vava’u, Tonga. Interestingly, I was told they were called “Veka” there.]]>
no_email@example.com (Weka1) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37041#p37041 Thu, 31 May 2018 08:43:45 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7775&p=37041#p37041
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Mutualism between human and birds :: Author Robyn]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37004#p37004
I must admit that it surprised me when a group of Tui and Mynas started to join me for my evening walk. They seemed eager to hear the canary song too.

To date, I have quite a variety of birds flying and hopping from tree to tree, and they haven't been lured by food or anythng like that. "The flock" as I affectionately call them comprises Tui, Mynas, Fantails, Kingfishers, Blackbirds, Grey Warblers, Wax-Eyes, Rosellas, Feral Barbery Doves, Wood Pigeons, Thrushes, Chaffinches, and other birds I have yet to identify.

I have kept a diary of the day to day findings. I have done this so as not to forget details that are important.

I would love to hear any body's thoughts because this is very new to me and would value any feedback. Thanks.]]>
no_email@example.com (Robyn) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37004#p37004 Sun, 27 May 2018 23:18:02 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37004#p37004
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mutualism between human and birds :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37019#p37019 Some of our forest birds are known to form mixed flocks in winter. Each species presumably is able to exploit slightly different food and perhaps together better avoid predators than searching alone. I wonder if you are seeing something like this.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37019#p37019 Tue, 29 May 2018 21:24:42 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37019#p37019 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mutualism between human and birds :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37023#p37023 https://www.birdcall.com/products/audubon-bird-call]]> no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37023#p37023 Wed, 30 May 2018 08:41:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37023#p37023 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mutualism between human and birds :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37024#p37024
Please don't release caged birds to the wild - they certainly wont be better off and there is always the chance they could spread disease or parasites.

cheers
jim]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37024#p37024 Wed, 30 May 2018 09:16:56 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37024#p37024
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mutualism between human and birds :: Reply by boneywhitefoot]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37039#p37039 no_email@example.com (boneywhitefoot) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37039#p37039 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:06:38 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37039#p37039 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mutualism between human and birds :: Reply by Robyn]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37046#p37046
Kind regards, Robyn.]]>
no_email@example.com (Robyn) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37046#p37046 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 02:36:15 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37046#p37046
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mutualism between human and birds :: Reply by les]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37078#p37078 no_email@example.com (les) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37078#p37078 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 20:43:29 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7771&p=37078#p37078 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Tutukaka Pelagic Seabird Trip - 8 July 2018 :: Author ourspot]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7786&p=37099#p37099
There are currently 2 spaces left.

Based out of Tutukaka in Northland this trip is a great opportunity to spend the day on the water and enjoy a variety of pelagic seabirds including albatrosses, mollymawks and some storm-petrels, shearwaters and petrels. Naturally there’s no guarantee on what birds will be present (as it depends on the season) but that’s part of the excitement of it. The trip leaves Tutukaka, goes via the spectacular Poor Knight Islands, and then heads out to about 40km offshore to a deep trench which is a good seabird location, as well as being a known whale route and we’ve seen them on a few occasions.

We depart at approximately 7.00am and return to the Tutukaka marina late afternoon (or whenever everyone’s had enough). You’ll need to provide your own food/drink/supplies for the trip. I should point out I’m not a tour guide, just a very keen birder. I organise these trips so other like-minded people can get out there and see what’s around.

The 30ft boat is fairly basic and has fantastic all round viewing for bird spotting. There are pull down plastic sides and front if the weather gets a bit wet, a small separate toilet, seating in the form of a couple of benches and a few big chilly bins, so there can be a bit of standing involved. It has a cruising speed of 18 knots and is fully compliant under Maritime New Zealand’s MOSS survey system.

Myself and the skipper will be checking the weather/swell conditions and will make a call 2 to 3 days out from the trip as to whether to go ahead or not.

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COSTS:
The way the trip works is that the cost to charter the boat is shared amongst the people on board, so the final cost per person isn’t finalised until closer to the trip date when numbers on board are confirmed.

The maximum number is 10 people. The trip needs a minimum of 6 people to make costs feasible or it won’t go ahead.

A non-refundable deposit of $140 is required upon booking to confirm your place on the trip and then any balance will be sorted closer to the trip date when numbers are confirmed. If the trip is cancelled due to adverse conditions then all money paid will be refunded.

Final trip costs (based on how many are on board) are:
• 10 people $140 each
• 9 people $155 each
• 8 people $175 each
• 7 people $200 each
• 6 people $230 each

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Let me know if you’re keen or if have any questions about the trip.

Cheers
Scott Brooks
021 322 324 | scott@ourspot.nz


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no_email@example.com (ourspot) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7786&p=37099#p37099 Tue, 05 Jun 2018 20:11:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7786&p=37099#p37099
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: How can we save the rooks. :: Author kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37049#p37049 no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37049#p37049 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:43:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37049#p37049 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37050#p37050
They annoyed farmers by tearing and eating vegetable seedlings out of soil and fruits and damaging the pastures and rooks do eat eggs and baby birds.

Better for all of rooks to be destroyed in NZ, until they are gone for ever.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37050#p37050 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:23:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37050#p37050
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37052#p37052
Clinton9 wrote:No, Rooks are exotic crows and they are unwanted pest in NZ.

They annoyed farmers by tearing and eating vegetable seedlings out of soil and fruits and damaging the pastures and rooks do eat eggs and baby birds.

Better for all of rooks to be destroyed in NZ, until they are gone for ever.
but this is the same as magpies do.but no one has it in for them...i have seein magpies take eggs and baby birds..the rooks do not do all of what you say they do..rooks do not have a economic and environmental impact here..theres mabe no more then 100 of them here now...]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37052#p37052 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:12:51 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37052#p37052
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by flossiepip]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37054#p37054 no_email@example.com (flossiepip) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37054#p37054 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:46:58 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37054#p37054 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37056#p37056
flossiepip wrote:Myna birds are a far bigger pest than Rooks could ever be but Rooks can be eradicated where as Mynas never can be. Someone soon is going to stand up happily and say, haven't we done a great job the Rooks have gone but they will never say peep about the Myna, I remember as a young boy on the farm in England, if we saw Rooks picking at the pasture then we knew that there was a pest infestation that the Rooks were telling us about and it would be addressed!
yes i see what you are saying and now we have a myna down here in chch.so on there way down to us.i am going out on sunday to see if i can get a photo of it..and yes i think thay a bigger pest than Rooks..but no one is doing any thing about them..but everone is so hard on the old rook..come on..]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37056#p37056 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:55:49 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37056#p37056
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37057#p37057
flossiepip wrote:Myna birds are a far bigger pest than Rooks could ever be but Rooks can be eradicated where as Mynas never can be. Someone soon is going to stand up happily and say, haven't we done a great job the Rooks have gone but they will never say peep about the Myna, I remember as a young boy on the farm in England, if we saw Rooks picking at the pasture then we knew that there was a pest infestation that the Rooks were telling us about and it would be addressed!

maybe if alot of us can do something about this we can save some of them or it will be to late..there has to be something we can do..]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37057#p37057 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:57:36 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37057#p37057
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37058#p37058 Over last 150 years their numbers decreased and these large black birds became very wary.

Our government wants all rooks in NZ be destroyed.

Rooks eat mostly insects and worms and few greens most of year and in autumntime they ate walnuts and fruits, but during wintertime they eat any meats as dead birds and dead rabbits they find on roadsides and during springtime they eat eggs and chicks, and this would means tuis, bellbirds chicks being eaten by rooks.

Due to in farms they teared pieces of grass from pastures and flipping the cattle dungs when looking for worms, caused damages to pastures and pulling the vegetable seedlings from soils, these rooks are high risk pest birds that are not welcome in NZ.

In Hamilton in early 1990s I got a dead immature rook, it was entirely black in colour and not colourful, but plumage were glossy. It was slightly bigger than Australian magpies.

Rooks cannot be kept as pets in NZ and DOC will destroy any rooks if they see them.

Rooks are birds of cold temperate climate and open environment and they lives in farmland, rough pastures, with tall trees.

Rooks are extinct in North Island, but survives in southern South Island only.

Rook survival in NZ, are very low, as they can only eat European foods as earthworms and walnuts, and starvation during winter and springtime, will force the rooks to eat dead animals on roadsides and eggs and chicks of tuis and bellbirds and exotic birds.
Meats and eggs and chicks are not the rooks"s preferred diet.
Many juvenile and yearling rooks dies during first year of life in NZ.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37058#p37058 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:04:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37058#p37058
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Pat Miller]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37061#p37061
Cheerio,
Pat]]>
no_email@example.com (Pat Miller) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37061#p37061 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:24:56 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37061#p37061
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37062#p37062
Australian crows are correct replacement birds for our own native crow.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37062#p37062 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:42:22 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37062#p37062
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37063#p37063
Cheerio,yes I like what you have to say.it be good to have a poll to see what everyone thinks.maybe if we get a Lot of people on side we can do something about it.I know where there are some but will not put it up on here.as thay will then be gone..]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37063#p37063 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:45:04 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37063#p37063
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37064#p37064
Clinton9 wrote:Rooks are European birds and wrong birds as replacement for our own extinct native crow.

Australian crows are correct replacement birds for our own native crow.
so you saying it be ok to have Australian crows here then.and if we still had nz crows here thay be just the same as rooks.getting a hard time also as thay are just like rooks.]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37064#p37064 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:52:33 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37064#p37064
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37065#p37065
Best is to save our country for native Australian crows rather than exotic European rooks.

I do not support your idea about save the rooks in NZ.

So rooks have to go, make way for Australian crows.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37065#p37065 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:54 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37065#p37065
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by flossiepip]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37068#p37068 no_email@example.com (flossiepip) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37068#p37068 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:31:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37068#p37068 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37070#p37070 In Europe, crows and jackdaws are more likely to be shot by people than rooks, because they readily ate fruits in orchards whose rooks did not ate fruits in orchards. Jackdaws and crows had been hunted and shot in orchards.

Mynas are unlikely to spread southward to South Island, and through sparrows, blackbirds, starlings, mynas can be pests during nonbreeding season when they feed on fruits in orchards, but when during breeding season they are wonderful insect controllers and are farmers"s friends, they eat a lots of insects when rearing their chicks.
Australian magpies can be a pain in neck, but they help controlling insects and keep blackbirds and mynas and starlings out of orchards.

When all rooks in NZ are destroyed by councils and government in NZ, the starlings will take over rooks as insect controllers.

Mynas lives in northern North Island, while starlings are still common and widespread in whole NZ, through starling numbers are decreasing in northern North Island and increasing in southern South Island. Starlings flies in large flocks during January to August.

Exotic finches as European goldfinch, European chaffinches & Yellowhammers and Redpolls and Cirl buntings and greenfinches are welcome to NZ as weed controllers and insect controllers. Song Thrushes are welcome in NZ as garden snail controllers.
European Robins and Bullfinches were imported to NZ in 1880s, but sadly they died out.
If Bullfinches are alive today in NZ, they do eat buds of fruit trees in orchards, but they are not the major pest, and would add colours (pink, grey, brown, black) to our NZ environment. Our European chaffinches are only exotic birds with pink colour on breasts.

Only the major pest birds as rooks, European blackbirds, mynas, sparrows are not welcome in NZ, and would be destroyed during May to September.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37070#p37070 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:42:00 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37070#p37070
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by flossiepip]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37073#p37073 no_email@example.com (flossiepip) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37073#p37073 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:18:55 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37073#p37073 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37075#p37075 I've always been of the view on exotics:-
- No new ones please!!!
- Any already here if they are not a threat to natives and filling an empty niche - no issue
- If they pose a threat to agriculture/forestry whatever then let the science decide.

I've seen various posts on Rooks over the years - some say beneficial - some say pest - be nice to see some studies confirming one way or the other.
I presume they were brought here because someone thought they might control something else (ala stoats..) - but as we all know this strategy has not worked well for us at all!

Same for magpies & mynas - however can't see any of them being in the same league as rats, possums, stoats etc.

I guess there is always a risk though even with good research - what turns out to be benign now could be quite a different problem if NZ warms by a couple of degrees....

cheers
Jim]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37075#p37075 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:49:42 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37075#p37075
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by flossiepip]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37077#p37077 no_email@example.com (flossiepip) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37077#p37077 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 13:09:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37077#p37077 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37079#p37079 http://nzbirdsonline.org.nz/species/rook]]> no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37079#p37079 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 00:55:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37079#p37079 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37080#p37080
flossiepip wrote:Myna birds are a far bigger pest than Rooks could ever be


Based on what?]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37080#p37080 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 11:27:18 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37080#p37080
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by flossiepip]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37081#p37081 no_email@example.com (flossiepip) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37081#p37081 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 11:45:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37081#p37081 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37082#p37082 I have personally never seen a ship rat prey on a bird nest, but the science tells us that is a major (if not the biggest) threat to many of our native birds. On the other hand, I have seen a magpie kill a blackbird, and a myna kill starling chicks, but the science tells us neither are significant predators of native birds, compared to the other threats they face. I have no reason to doubt any of this, until and if there is stronger evidence to the contrary.
I don't know where rooks fall in comparison to mynas and magpies, but there is a perception they are harmful to agriculture. The big difference is that managers seems to think they have a chance of eradication.
As previously mentioned, probably the only thing you can do is not publicize too much detail of sightings (especially nests).]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37082#p37082 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 12:03:38 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37082#p37082
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by flossiepip]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37083#p37083 A quick look on web sites would seem to back this up with the Australians seeming to be almost pathological to the bird, I am sure that I read somewhere that they consider it to be the second biggest threat to native birds after land clearance! Indeed they refer to it as the-Flying Cane Toad and if you look further not only is it now seen as a major pest in many country's but is being blamed for bringing many native birds to the brink of extinction, I believe if memory serves me well that I read that Hawaii and Mauritius, two country's with a long history of man induced extinctions name this bird as one of their major concerns.
In the year 2000 the International Union for the Conservation of Nature the IUCN named the Common Myna in the 100 of the worlds most invasive species.
I believe that this information is still there to be googled.]]>
no_email@example.com (flossiepip) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37083#p37083 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:42:08 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37083#p37083
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37084#p37084 Then mynas mobbing the magpie, then magpie flew away, with angry mynas flying after the magpie, in a large flock.
Other mynas flew to trees and watching the large flock of mynas flying after a magpie.
During late 2000s near my place I saw a myna attacked a fledgling European starling on footpath, but an adult starling flew to beat up a myna, then myna flew away. At Brightsmile Community Garden during late 2000s I watched a pair of European blackbirds defending their nest from a myna, with a female blackbird attacked the myna, then myna flew away.
I had watched them fighting on roof and ground.
I am worried, as numbers of mynas increased, they are spreading southward as climate warm up, these mynas will kick these North Island kakas (dull brown forest parrot) and red-crowned kakarikis out of their nest holes in trees, and mynas may attack fantails by flying after them to catch them same way as mynas catching flying insects.
During 2000s when I started to work in farm and when nest boxes were installed along top of fences, European starlings used the new nest boxes for several years, then Common mynas came and kicked the starlings out of nest boxes and took over the nest boxes, then they bred.
Over last 18 years numbers of starlings in farm whose I working, decreased and disappeared, while mynas increased and now the farm have large flock of mynas, during wintertime and springtime.
During 2000s I have seen rooks few times when I were in Miranda, these birds were flying singly.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37084#p37084 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:03:59 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37084#p37084
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by john b]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37085#p37085 no_email@example.com (john b) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37085#p37085 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:10:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37085#p37085 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37086#p37086 Does anyone know why Rooks were introduced?
If they eat seedlings etc surely they were doing the same thing in the UK & Europe?
You have to wonder if those early old blighty immigrants were blessed with much intelligence...!
As Neil et al have mentioned the small numbers that remain aren't likely to be much of a problem.

I would disagree Neil re Magpies/Myna & Rosella? - the science might show they don't have much impact on some natives - but it can't show the impacts on those species that aren't currently there.... so planned reintroduction say of birds like kakariki, falcon, kaka could well be impacted by high numbers of these birds

cheers
jim]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37086#p37086 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:28:14 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37086#p37086
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37087#p37087
Or use our native falcons to keep mynas moving more often & control their numbers.

During 1776 NZ were largely forested, the Paradiae shelducks were confined to grasslands and lakes in southern South Island only.
Today the shelducks are widespread in NZ, thanks to humans cleared the forests and NZ had several native forests.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37087#p37087 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:30:09 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37087#p37087
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37088#p37088
Jim_j wrote:I would disagree Neil re Magpies/Myna & Rosella? - the science might show they don't have much impact on some natives - but it can't show the impacts on those species that aren't currently there.... so planned reintroduction say of birds like kakariki, falcon, kaka could well be impacted by high numbers of these birds

cheers
jim

In fact, kakariki have successfully established in the presence of myna and rosella (e.g. Tawharanui), and at other places where mammalian predators have been eradicated (e.g. Little Barrier and Tiritiri Matangi) myna are now rare, apparently out competed by the endemic birds. Mynas, rosellas and magpies could easily recolonise these places, but now that the mammals are gone, something is keeping them out.
It seems the best way to deal with mynas (and many other introduced birds) is to get rid of introduced mammalian predators.]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37088#p37088 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 16:09:09 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37088#p37088
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37089#p37089
flossiepip wrote:My knowledge and experience with this bird here in various parts of Northland tells me that they are a major pest to native and introduced birds, reptiles and insects too. There great numbers seem to overwhelm the local garden birds and their competition for nesting sites is very noticeable.
A quick look on web sites would seem to back this up with the Australians seeming to be almost pathological to the bird, I am sure that I read somewhere that they consider it to be the second biggest threat to native birds after land clearance! Indeed they refer to it as the-Flying Cane Toad and if you look further not only is it now seen as a major pest in many country's but is being blamed for bringing many native birds to the brink of extinction, I believe if memory serves me well that I read that Hawaii and Mauritius, two country's with a long history of man induced extinctions name this bird as one of their major concerns.
In the year 2000 the International Union for the Conservation of Nature the IUCN named the Common Myna in the 100 of the worlds most invasive species.
I believe that this information is still there to be googled.

Overseas examples have only limited relevance to NZ. Sure, if we didn't have them it would be good reason to try to keep them out, but we do, and it is quite remarkable that, given all the overseas examples, they are not a real pest here too. Australia has a lot more similarly sized endemic hole-nesters.
I worry more about their affect on our invertebrates and reptiles. But then hedgehogs are likely far worse.]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37089#p37089 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 16:41:02 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37089#p37089
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37090#p37090 So if we want kaka kakariki whitehead, tomtit rifleman etc in our towns & cities - which I suggest is a very real possibility - then impacts of myna & magpie in particular might need a bit more research

cheers
jim]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37090#p37090 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 16:43:27 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37090#p37090
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37092#p37092 But I think we are getting to the same place; once we have taken care of the greatest limiting factors in some novel environments (mammalian predators, habitat quality), maybe then mynas will rise as the surface. However, it would be terrible if by the time 2050 rolls around we have completely lost some more of our endemics because we chasing around after mynas, or rooks, and diverting scarce resources from the real, known problems.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37092#p37092 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 19:48:32 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37092#p37092 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by bruce.shanks]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37104#p37104
Bruce Shanks]]>
no_email@example.com (bruce.shanks) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37104#p37104 Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:45:59 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37104#p37104
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Jake]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37112#p37112
I see rosellas mentioned as a dangerous bird; what damage/risks are we seeing with them? I don't think they compete with kakariki; kakariki seem to have PBFD antibodies already; they don't do much damage to crops; they're not going to hybridise with anything - I'm not seeing much reason to be bringing them into this]]>
no_email@example.com (Jake) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37112#p37112 Thu, 07 Jun 2018 22:50:26 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37112#p37112
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37115#p37115 My concern is more around future impacts - r/c parakeet would I suspect do well in open & lightly forested country (ie most of rural NZ) in the absence of stoats/rates etc.
However if rosella have already taken this niche - is there going to be room for both species?
Although in saying that they seem to be doing very well round Zealandia where there was a small population of rosella.

cheers
jim]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37115#p37115 Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:22:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37115#p37115
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: How can we save the rooks. :: Reply by TedHoward-Huttons]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37116#p37116
Last year in Kaikoura I saw a lone rook about 20 times, usually at first light. It wouldn't let me within 200m of it. Haven't seen any this year.

I am not in favour of introducing and allowing any threat to native species, and rooks are certainly that - they are very smart predators, and can easily exterminate other species when in large numbers and hungry enough.

And as others have mentioned, other predators are higher priority - depending on species, but my list in priority order would go something like:
rats, hedgehogs, stoats, weasels, cats, ferrets, dogs, pigs, mice, and a long list follows.
For our ground nesting birds, hedgehogs are number 1, with cats a coming next - and cats probably being worse for the colonial species - particularly terns (which cats show a clear preference for over gulls). For our burrowing birds, it is almost certainly pigs that are the major problem - though mustelids and rats are also problematic.

If I had a chance to easily eradicate rooks, I would most certainly take it.]]>
no_email@example.com (TedHoward-Huttons) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37116#p37116 Sat, 09 Jun 2018 08:33:26 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7781&p=37116#p37116
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Miranda :: Author Grahame]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7795&p=37147#p37147 Grahame]]> no_email@example.com (Grahame) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7795&p=37147#p37147 Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:49:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7795&p=37147#p37147 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Blackbirds singing :: Reply by Jim Kirker]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2003&p=37157#p37157 https://ebird.org/newzealand/view/checklist/S46557120]]> no_email@example.com (Jim Kirker) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2003&p=37157#p37157 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 18:49:04 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2003&p=37157#p37157 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Author Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37074#p37074
Since wild Mallard ducks were imported from USA in 1930s and bred & released in NZ, and since they hybridized with our native Grey ducks, while most people in NZ wants wild Mallard ducks to stay in NZ.

Our pure Grey ducks are endangered and are slipping toward extinction, through hybridizing with Mallard ducks.

One juvenile wild Mallard duck flew from NZ, to New Caledonia, in late 2000s

Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ???]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37074#p37074 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:24:09 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37074#p37074
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37094#p37094 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37094#p37094 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 08:56:07 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37094#p37094 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by boneywhitefoot]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37095#p37095 https://boneywhitefoot.wordpress.com/20 ... y-mallard/]]> no_email@example.com (boneywhitefoot) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37095#p37095 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 13:41:37 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37095#p37095 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37097#p37097 https://www.notornis.osnz.org.nz/system ... 55_1_1.pdf]]> no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37097#p37097 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:17:30 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37097#p37097 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Jake]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37113#p37113
Australian mallards get shot in NZ and kiwi mallards get shot in Aussie. Canada geese and parries crop up there too.

I have a bit of a weird opinion on Mallards in NZ... Grey ducks won't survive as a pure species in the wild; we need to get them into captivity or managed somewhere (maybe even as a pinioned population, and be shooting mallards on site). The hybrid mallards that we have represent a huge amount of the original grey duck genome. Like how Neanderthal DNA has never been so abundant as it is today, those grey duck genetics will persist. It's a bit messy, but what can we really do?]]>
no_email@example.com (Jake) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37113#p37113 Thu, 07 Jun 2018 23:15:01 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37113#p37113
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37114#p37114 Maybe a couple of these fenced sanctuaries could actively manage some small populations.
I presume mallard have mad it to the Chathams - does anyone know the status of the grey duck population there?

cheers
jim]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37114#p37114 Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:10:18 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37114#p37114
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37119#p37119
Jake wrote:I had a NZ Fish and Game magazine that had an in-depth article about the genetics of the New Zealand mallard. It was quite a surprise to find that American mallard made up only a tiny percent of their DNA; the vast majority was in fact English mallard. The explanation for this was that the eggs/stock came from America but the mallards, kept in captivity in America, were the easier-to-keep English birds that had been imported.


A more simple explanation is that there were 17 introductions from England and only 2 from USA.

What can be done? I think they would be far easier to eradicate from NZ than ship rats, stoats, possums, and probably rooks.
They hybridize with 63 species and are likely to cause the extinction of many of them around the world, just as they are doing here with our greys. It is simply a human value issue here, as far as I can tell.]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37119#p37119 Sat, 09 Jun 2018 19:30:32 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37119#p37119
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Mallards unwelcome in New Zealand? :: Reply by Jake]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37143#p37143
That's a very interesting and pretty fair point about the ability to eradicate them... it's very true but would not go down well with the general public]]>
no_email@example.com (Jake) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37143#p37143 Wed, 13 Jun 2018 14:47:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37143#p37143
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37144#p37144 no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37144#p37144 Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:15:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37144#p37144 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37160#p37160 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37160#p37160 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 08:40:36 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37160#p37160 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Are wild Mallard ducks welcome in New Zealand ??? :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37162#p37162
cheers
Jim]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37162#p37162 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 11:09:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7784&p=37162#p37162
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Goldfinch singing in Winter :: Author Jim Kirker]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37117#p37117
https://ebird.org/newzealand/view/checklist/S46387837]]>
no_email@example.com (Jim Kirker) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37117#p37117 Sat, 09 Jun 2018 15:53:36 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37117#p37117
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Goldfinch singing in Winter :: Reply by GrahameNZ]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37121#p37121 They haven't stopped down here in ChCh.
There was even a rather soggy looking Thrush singing just before sunset last Thurs.]]>
no_email@example.com (GrahameNZ) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37121#p37121 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 08:58:40 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37121#p37121
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Goldfinch singing in Winter :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37164#p37164
Russ C]]>
no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37164#p37164 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:04:00 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7789&p=37164#p37164
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Baby ducklings in winter :: Author andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37169#p37169 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37169#p37169 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 20:54:50 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37169#p37169 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by rukuhia]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37172#p37172 no_email@example.com (rukuhia) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37172#p37172 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:06:06 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37172#p37172 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37175#p37175
Domestic ducks and hybrid wild mallard duck X domestic ducks breed 12 months the whole year while true wild mallard ducks breed on August to January only.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37175#p37175 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:19:32 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37175#p37175
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by Liam Ballard]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37179#p37179 no_email@example.com (Liam Ballard) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37179#p37179 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:35:33 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37179#p37179 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by Bennyboy87654]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37185#p37185 no_email@example.com (Bennyboy87654) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37185#p37185 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 14:17:56 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37185#p37185 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37186#p37186 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37186#p37186 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 18:23:20 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37186#p37186 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37190#p37190
Neil Fitzgerald wrote:Highlighted to me what a stupid time duck shooting season is; when they have already started breeding. Harvesting basics is you do it post-breeding.


True enough though unfortunately in the Waikato it seems Mallards will nest in any month (Have recorded ducklings in each month at Te Ko Utu, Cambridge). Same goes for Pukeko and even coot to an extent.

I believe the duck shooting season was once extended into July at one point? That was... silly.

Ah well...]]>
no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37190#p37190 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:54:15 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37190#p37190
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37191#p37191

Bennyboy87654 wrote:I've seen some Pukeko chick recently, seems like a strange time to be laying eggs and raising chicks.
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no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37191#p37191 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:54:55 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37191#p37191
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Baby ducklings in winter :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37194#p37194 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37194#p37194 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:33:01 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7802&p=37194#p37194 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Hamilton Tomtit :: Author rukuhia]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37118#p37118 no_email@example.com (rukuhia) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37118#p37118 Sat, 09 Jun 2018 17:14:11 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37118#p37118 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Hamilton Tomtit :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37122#p37122 no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37122#p37122 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:03:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37122#p37122 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Hamilton Tomtit :: Reply by rukuhia]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37123#p37123 no_email@example.com (rukuhia) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37123#p37123 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 11:07:13 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37123#p37123 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Hamilton Tomtit :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37124#p37124 no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37124#p37124 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 12:55:04 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37124#p37124 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Hamilton Tomtit :: Reply by Michael]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37139#p37139 no_email@example.com (Michael) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37139#p37139 Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:11:01 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37139#p37139 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Hamilton Tomtit :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37212#p37212 Bob, you must be about equal distance from Pirongia, Pukemako (previously Maungakawa SR/Sanatorium Hill), and Tirohanga Road (just north of Maungatautari), which all had tomtits in recent counts I did. All getting close to 20 km from you.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37212#p37212 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:49:26 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7790&p=37212#p37212 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Red-billed gulls killed in Kaikoura :: Author Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37214#p37214
Some graphic pics published, so don't click if you are squeamish.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national ... n-kaikoura]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37214#p37214 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:13:14 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37214#p37214
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Red-billed gulls killed in Kaikoura :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37216#p37216

I had seen dead RBGs on road and roadsides in Thames over 18 past years, and in early 2000s I caught few young RBGs with fishing hooks in their beaks and removed the hooks out of the beaks, before I released them to nature.

Most NZ people are cruel to birds as RBGs and keas and our native birds, they often run down or knock the native birds on roads, with their cars.

In mid-2000s I took a juvenile RBG to a Vet in Thames town and I asked the female vet to remove the hook from its guts, and one hour later I return for bird to release to nature, but instead of alive bird, the vet had killed the bird, and I received the dead bird. I were very upset about cruel vet killing native birds, and I no longer trust vets to our native birds.

RBG is short name for Red-billed gull.

Red-billed gulls are New Zealand subspecie of Silver gulls which lives in Australia, Tasmania, New Caledonia.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37216#p37216 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 15:12:58 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37216#p37216
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Red-billed gulls killed in Kaikoura :: Reply by Ian McLean]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37228#p37228 no_email@example.com (Ian McLean) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37228#p37228 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 15:19:49 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7805&p=37228#p37228 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Yellow bird feather identification :: Author helinnmae]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37235#p37235 no_email@example.com (helinnmae) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37235#p37235 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:37:43 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37235#p37235 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Yellow bird feather identification :: Reply by Nikki McArthur]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37236#p37236
Do they look a bit like the feathers in the picture below? This bird is a goldfinch, which is a species that's quite common around Lower Hutt. You can safely disregard yellowhead as it's a very rare bird found only in a few remote locations in the South Island & its offshore islands. Yellowhammer wing feathers are reddish-brown in colour, so perhaps not too likely either.

Goldfinches are lovely looking birds - this picture doesn't do them justice, so I recommend looking them up in the fieldguide, or online.

Best regards,
Nikki

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no_email@example.com (Nikki McArthur) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37236#p37236 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:47:08 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37236#p37236
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Yellow bird feather identification :: Reply by helinnmae]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37238#p37238 My feathers Look Like Your picture! I don't think I've ever seen a goldfinch. I will put it on my list of birds to look for. Today I saw sparrows, blackbirds, chaffinches and piwakawaka.
Thank you for your help.
Bird Boy from Wild Kratts]]>
no_email@example.com (helinnmae) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37238#p37238 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:30:32 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37238#p37238
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Yellow bird feather identification :: Reply by Nikki McArthur]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37239#p37239 https://ebird.org/newzealand/places

If you go to this webpage and type "Lower Hutt" into the search box, it will give you a list of all the birds that have been seen by birdwatchers in and around Lower Hutt. According to this website there are 114 species you can look out for, though some of them are very rare!

Best wishes,
Nikki]]>
no_email@example.com (Nikki McArthur) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37239#p37239 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:18:54 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7809&p=37239#p37239
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Super abundant silveres around lake ellesmere :: Author andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7810&p=37242#p37242 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7810&p=37242#p37242 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:31:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7810&p=37242#p37242 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Super abundant silveres around lake ellesmere :: Reply by Jim Kirker]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7810&p=37244#p37244 no_email@example.com (Jim Kirker) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7810&p=37244#p37244 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:33:52 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7810&p=37244#p37244 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Mandarin Ducks :: Author takoda farm]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37146#p37146 no_email@example.com (takoda farm) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37146#p37146 Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:04:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37146#p37146 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mandarin Ducks :: Reply by les]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37182#p37182 no_email@example.com (les) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37182#p37182 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 11:20:45 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37182#p37182 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Mandarin Ducks :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37245#p37245 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37245#p37245 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:38:23 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7794&p=37245#p37245 <![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Nortrhern Shoveler Distribution :: Author Grahame]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37261#p37261

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no_email@example.com (Grahame) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37261#p37261 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:02:36 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37261#p37261
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Nortrhern Shoveler Distribution :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37263#p37263 Green = wintering ???
Red = summering ??? / breeding ???]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37263#p37263 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:04:14 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37263#p37263
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Nortrhern Shoveler Distribution :: Reply by Grahame]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37265#p37265
You are correct in your logic,
Red--Summer Orange--All year
Green--Winter]]>
no_email@example.com (Grahame) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37265#p37265 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:21:59 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37265#p37265
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Nortrhern Shoveler Distribution :: Reply by erikforsyth]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37267#p37267
I see wintering birds in Thailand, Korea and Japan between October and March. They also winter in the Philippines. These birds breed in the Russian Far East and NE China.

I believe the birds wintering in the south occasionally reach Australia and NZ.

cheers
Erik Forsyth
Rockjumper Birding Tours
www.rockjumperbirding.com]]>
no_email@example.com (erikforsyth) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37267#p37267 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 17:33:33 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37267#p37267
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Nortrhern Shoveler Distribution :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37268#p37268
For the purposes of understanding the migratory birds that reach these shores, reference to what happens in the Western Palearctic is almost always gonna confuse the issue!

For example: Our Bar-tailed godwits turn red in Feb, European ones don't; Our common terns have black bills, European ones don't; Our Black-tailed Godwits are smaller than our Bar-tails, in Europe their sub-species are the reverse; Our visting Northern Shoveler are in full, bright breeding plumage in May/June, while European ones are (according to Sav's recent posting) already at a different stage. etc, etc.

Its time to chuck all those European field notes in the red bin and focus instead on literature from East Asia, Hongkong, Japan, Korea, SE Asia, NW Arctic North America. Its also time (if folks have the chance) to do some expeditionary trips to East Asia and document the timing of plumage changes to try and rectify the paucity of accurate information...

Here's an example: In Feb-May 1997 I spent 4 months studying waders and terns in Sumatra: Here's my notes on White-winged Black Tern plumage changes: (similar observations on Northern Shoveler etc would be useful....)

28 Feb (400+ birds) all in winter plumage. very few showing any colour.

3 Mar some beginning to moult into BP, the most advanced moult stage being in <1/2 BP

11 Mar wide assortment of plumages from full winter to < 1/2 BP

17 Mar (400+ birds) wide assortment of wing patterns.

23 Mar most birds showing black under-wings, white upper wings, but body feathers still white

25 Mar appearance of first birds in "dalmatian" plumage - black splots on body

31 Mar many in dalmatian plumage (also first big influxes of assumed Australian waders on passage - Red Knots, Black-tailed Godwits & Terek Sandpipers)

2 April (300+ birds) WW Bl Terns in 1/3 - 2/3 BP but none with fully black bodies yet (c.f. Whiskered Terns which are all in BP).

14 April (980 birds) Big influx. Majority now have fully black bodies (full BP), with remainder in "dalmatian" plumage. (contra: Most adult Whiskered Terns, Little Terns, & Gull-billed Terns have almost all departed, leaving mainly birds in imm/juv plumage)

17 April Huge nos (thousands) along coastline and well inland (up to 15km) over ricefields and fish ponds.

19 April and 22 April Several groups observed on northward migration across Straits of Malacca during Ferry crossing from Sumatra to Penang (Malaysia). Also observed was a northward passage of Pomarine Skua.

23 April most birds in full BP

24 April (200+ birds) numbers declining, big drop in numbers . All whiskered terns and most Little Terns now gone.

4 May small numbers, all adults in BP, small nos of juv/imms.

12 May (<100 birds). Almost all juv/imms. Very few adults remain.]]>
no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37268#p37268 Sat, 23 Jun 2018 09:40:31 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37268#p37268
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Nortrhern Shoveler Distribution :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37269#p37269
When Northern shovelers migrate south on September, they are in esclipe plumages.

They start prebreeding moults on February.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37269#p37269 Sat, 23 Jun 2018 12:04:51 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37269#p37269
<![CDATA[General Birding Discussion :: Re: Nortrhern Shoveler Distribution :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37271#p37271
If supplementary plumage exist, this means shovelers have 8 months moulting season
If supplementary plumage do not exist, this means shovelers have 6 months moulting season.

Mallard ducks have 3 months moulting season.

Adult Red-billed gulls have 10 months moulting season (January to October) Post breeding moult January to May and pre breeding moult August to October.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37271#p37271 Sat, 23 Jun 2018 13:20:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7811&p=37271#p37271
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Giant Petrel at Manawatu Estuary :: Author imogen]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7766&p=36978#p36978
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no_email@example.com (imogen) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7766&p=36978#p36978 Thu, 24 May 2018 15:54:29 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7766&p=36978#p36978
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Giant Petrel at Manawatu Estuary :: Reply by George Hobson]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7766&p=36979#p36979 no_email@example.com (George Hobson) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7766&p=36979#p36979 Thu, 24 May 2018 16:35:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7766&p=36979#p36979 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Curlew & Hudwit (Tauranga Harbour W) :: Reply by rukuhia]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7763&p=36980#p36980 IMG_9205.JPGI had good views of the Hudwit as it came into roost this afternoon. Obvious black under the wings and black tail, white rump.Not sure if it is the bird on the right with the bulging supercilium above lores. Did note one on left getting along with a stump ok.

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no_email@example.com (rukuhia) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7763&p=36980#p36980 Thu, 24 May 2018 18:55:26 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7763&p=36980#p36980
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Curlew & Hudwit (Tauranga Harbour W) :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7763&p=36993#p36993
Russ]]>
no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7763&p=36993#p36993 Fri, 25 May 2018 18:57:18 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7763&p=36993#p36993
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: RED-NECKED PHALAROPE in Nelson :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7753&p=36995#p36995 no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7753&p=36995#p36995 Sat, 26 May 2018 11:07:58 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7753&p=36995#p36995 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Gull billed Tern - Motueka Spit. :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7677&p=36991#p36991 no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7677&p=36991#p36991 Fri, 25 May 2018 14:05:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7677&p=36991#p36991 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Gull billed Tern - Motueka Spit. :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7677&p=36998#p36998

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no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7677&p=36998#p36998 Sat, 26 May 2018 20:42:47 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7677&p=36998#p36998
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Australian Wood Duck - Mapua Nelson. :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5523&p=36994#p36994 no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5523&p=36994#p36994 Sat, 26 May 2018 07:39:54 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5523&p=36994#p36994 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Australian Wood Duck - Mapua Nelson. :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5523&p=36999#p36999

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no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5523&p=36999#p36999 Sat, 26 May 2018 20:44:21 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5523&p=36999#p36999
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: NZ falcon, Hamilton :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5196&p=37006#p37006 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5196&p=37006#p37006 Mon, 28 May 2018 10:53:03 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5196&p=37006#p37006 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: NZ falcon, Hamilton :: Reply by zarkov]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5196&p=37008#p37008
Local friend and conservationist tells me that there are two pairs in the immediate area.

Also saw a juvenile near the Chateau turnoff, National Park last month.

Pretty chuffed as I hadn't really had a good look at one till then.]]>
no_email@example.com (zarkov) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5196&p=37008#p37008 Mon, 28 May 2018 20:54:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5196&p=37008#p37008
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Fairy prion in Karori, Wellington :: Author kimbirdley]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37010#p37010
Also keen for some help with I.D. as my prion knowledge isn't great. Do we think it's likely to be a fairy prion?

http://inaturalist.nz/observations/12907658]]>
no_email@example.com (kimbirdley) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37010#p37010 Tue, 29 May 2018 10:48:28 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37010#p37010
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Fairy prion in Karori, Wellington :: Reply by Ian Southey]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37014#p37014
It's come in off the sea and won't be breeding locally.

Ian]]>
no_email@example.com (Ian Southey) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37014#p37014 Tue, 29 May 2018 12:51:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37014#p37014
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Fairy prion in Karori, Wellington :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37022#p37022 no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37022#p37022 Wed, 30 May 2018 08:09:51 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37022#p37022 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Fairy prion in Karori, Wellington :: Reply by Michael Szabo]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37025#p37025 no_email@example.com (Michael Szabo) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37025#p37025 Wed, 30 May 2018 09:56:30 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7772&p=37025#p37025 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Author stevenz]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37018#p37018 no_email@example.com (stevenz) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37018#p37018 Tue, 29 May 2018 20:48:35 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37018#p37018 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37021#p37021
Hope it shows up again for ya.

Russ C
Morrinsville, NZ]]>
no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37021#p37021 Wed, 30 May 2018 06:44:09 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37021#p37021
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Reply by kengeorge]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37031#p37031 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoBlkaGJk4s]]> no_email@example.com (kengeorge) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37031#p37031 Wed, 30 May 2018 14:42:20 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37031#p37031 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37034#p37034 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37034#p37034 Wed, 30 May 2018 18:52:50 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37034#p37034 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Reply by stevenz]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37037#p37037
Flight characteristics? It took off in a flash then was hidden by the house so nothing to go on there.

I’ve seen currawongs but not the koel. Are any of these kept as captives?]]>
no_email@example.com (stevenz) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37037#p37037 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:47:12 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37037#p37037
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Reply by Mandyjane]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37038#p37038 no_email@example.com (Mandyjane) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37038#p37038 Wed, 30 May 2018 21:39:13 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37038#p37038 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37040#p37040 no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37040#p37040 Wed, 30 May 2018 22:29:56 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37040#p37040 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Large black bird, Bayswater Auckland :: Reply by Mandyjane]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37044#p37044 ]]> no_email@example.com (Mandyjane) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37044#p37044 Thu, 31 May 2018 20:27:37 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7774&p=37044#p37044 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Cattle egrets, Waipu :: Author Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7782&p=37059#p37059

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no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7782&p=37059#p37059 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:10:50 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7782&p=37059#p37059
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: 2 Greater sand plover - Big Sand Island :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7539&p=37098#p37098
For those interested, both Greater Sand Plovers appear to be overwintering at Big Sand Island in the Kaipara. One is still in very pale non-breeding plumage while the other has developed some warmer tones but nothing like a breeding adult (See below). The former was with the bandies and NZ Dots at the causeway roost while the latter was completely by itself at the north end of the island (High tide). It didn't look too pleased about the winter storm!
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Just a few turnstones around and several hundred each of godwit and knot. A single Little Tern (immature) was fishing near the causeway, and 3 redpoll flew over when I first arrived. Those were about it for 'notables.' Managed to not get toooo wet ;)

Russ C
Morrinsville, NZ

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no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7539&p=37098#p37098 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:36:34 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7539&p=37098#p37098
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Our Great New Zealand Bird Tour :: Reply by talishamacdoff]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6003&p=37042#p37042 no_email@example.com (talishamacdoff) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6003&p=37042#p37042 Thu, 31 May 2018 16:44:51 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6003&p=37042#p37042 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Our Great New Zealand Bird Tour :: Reply by ourspot]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6003&p=37100#p37100
talishamacdoff wrote:Lovely pictures! Hope you enjoyed your tour a lot.


Sure did enjoy the tour! One of our best years ever (if not the best). You can read the second half of the story on this post viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6515

Cheers Scott]]>
no_email@example.com (ourspot) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6003&p=37100#p37100 Tue, 05 Jun 2018 20:22:43 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6003&p=37100#p37100
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Our Great New Zealand Bird Tour 2016 - Completed - 153 species :: Reply by Steve Wood]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6515&p=37103#p37103

Cheers
Steve]]>
no_email@example.com (Steve Wood) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6515&p=37103#p37103 Wed, 06 Jun 2018 05:06:07 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6515&p=37103#p37103
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: possible little owl in Wellington :: Author Victoria Robson]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37043#p37043 no_email@example.com (Victoria Robson) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37043#p37043 Thu, 31 May 2018 18:19:38 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37043#p37043 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: possible little owl in Wellington :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37069#p37069 viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4522

Some day someone will probably confirm a North Island little owl, so do keep an eye out.]]>
no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37069#p37069 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 08:37:52 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37069#p37069
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: possible little owl in Wellington :: Reply by Victoria Robson]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37109#p37109 no_email@example.com (Victoria Robson) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37109#p37109 Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:13:31 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7778&p=37109#p37109 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Egret or Reef Heron? :: Author Peter Hodge]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37101#p37101
Any thoughts? What I find interesting is the bird's yellow legs. Apologies for the image quality - the bird was some distance away.

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no_email@example.com (Peter Hodge) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37101#p37101 Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:39:21 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37101#p37101
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Egret or Reef Heron? :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37102#p37102 viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5249&start=30]]> no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37102#p37102 Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:41:45 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37102#p37102 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Egret or Reef Heron? :: Reply by bruce.shanks]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37105#p37105
Bruce Shanks]]>
no_email@example.com (bruce.shanks) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37105#p37105 Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:48:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37105#p37105
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Egret or Reef Heron? :: Reply by Peter Hodge]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37111#p37111 no_email@example.com (Peter Hodge) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37111#p37111 Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:27:03 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7787&p=37111#p37111 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Black Kite -Waihopai Valley :: Reply by Mtn Breeze]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7568&p=37120#p37120
I was driving up the Wairau valley on 28 May at 1100 and saw the kite soaring over SH63 a kilometre or so past the Waihopai turn off.

Matt


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no_email@example.com (Mtn Breeze) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7568&p=37120#p37120 Sat, 09 Jun 2018 20:25:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7568&p=37120#p37120
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Falcon at Godley Head, east Christchurch :: Author Anita#]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7791&p=37125#p37125
cheers
Anita]]>
no_email@example.com (Anita#) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7791&p=37125#p37125 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:22:12 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7791&p=37125#p37125
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Red-capped Dotterel reported from Miranda :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7470&p=37135#p37135 Thanks to Paul G for passing this on.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7470&p=37135#p37135 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:26:58 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7470&p=37135#p37135 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Nankeen Night Heron Upokongaro :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37127#p37127
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no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37127#p37127 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 19:56:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37127#p37127
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Nankeen Night Heron Upokongaro :: Reply by zarkov]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37136#p37136 no_email@example.com (zarkov) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37136#p37136 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 16:40:31 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37136#p37136 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Nankeen Night Heron Upokongaro :: Reply by RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37138#p37138
Russ C
Morrinsville, NZ]]>
no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37138#p37138 Tue, 12 Jun 2018 06:47:06 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37138#p37138
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Nankeen Night Heron Upokongaro :: Reply by CMKMStephens]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37140#p37140 no_email@example.com (CMKMStephens) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37140#p37140 Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:51:40 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1809&p=37140#p37140 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Little Egret Weymouth :: Author phil hammond]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7793&p=37142#p37142 no_email@example.com (phil hammond) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7793&p=37142#p37142 Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:30:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7793&p=37142#p37142 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Nankeen kestrel - Te Paki farm, Far North :: Author Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7796&p=37148#p37148 "Seen flying/hovering 20 metres above us and then glided off. Viewed for 3 minutes. about 600m away from the car park above the grazed paddock I am very familiar with the Nankeen kestrel from my childhood in Sydney. I could see them outside the school window most days. We did not see it again in the rest of the 8 hours of the day's walk. Sunny, 10 knots SW. No photo. went back to get my camera. Exact grid ref."]]> no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7796&p=37148#p37148 Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:57:47 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7796&p=37148#p37148 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Possible Kookaburra Napier Hill, Hawkes Bay :: Author tim]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7785&p=37091#p37091 There also isnt any photos and I dont know any more details but deffantly seems possible that it is a Kookaburra.]]> no_email@example.com (tim) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7785&p=37091#p37091 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 18:05:00 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7785&p=37091#p37091 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Possible Kookaburra Napier Hill, Hawkes Bay :: Reply by Cheryl Walton]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7785&p=37153#p37153 no_email@example.com (Cheryl Walton) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7785&p=37153#p37153 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:19:31 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7785&p=37153#p37153 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Dabchick, Lake Rotoroa/Hamilton Lake :: Author Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37152#p37152 It was in the north east bay.
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no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37152#p37152 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:51:22 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37152#p37152
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Dabchick, Lake Rotoroa/Hamilton Lake :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37155#p37155
Just checked the Birds Waikato lake census for 13th May (June one would've been done last Sunday but results not in yet), no dabchicks seen then.

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no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37155#p37155 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 17:14:40 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37155#p37155
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Dabchick, Lake Rotoroa/Hamilton Lake :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37161#p37161 I did a quick drive by of Hamilton Lake yesterday but couldn't find anything.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37161#p37161 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 08:42:55 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7797&p=37161#p37161 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: SIPO on the move? :: Reply by Richard Schofield]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5187&p=37165#p37165 no_email@example.com (Richard Schofield) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5187&p=37165#p37165 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 18:12:36 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5187&p=37165#p37165 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: SIPO on the move? :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5187&p=37173#p37173
I thought SIPO don't come back to South Island (breeding), from North Island (wintering) until August.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5187&p=37173#p37173 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:58:04 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5187&p=37173#p37173
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Marsh crake, Ahuriri Napier :: Reply by bennydog]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=36983#p36983 No use talking about it, the why and how of why the birds have gone...
Also increased human activity attracts Stoats etc as they associate people with possible food potential..
It does not take a huge effort to do some predator trapping ,source some traps from DOC or local council, get a few volunteers even ask Forest & bird people they may put the binoculars down and help....]]>
no_email@example.com (bennydog) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=36983#p36983 Fri, 25 May 2018 08:04:15 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=36983#p36983
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Marsh crake, Ahuriri Napier :: Reply by Cheryl Walton]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=36985#p36985 no_email@example.com (Cheryl Walton) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=36985#p36985 Fri, 25 May 2018 11:19:59 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=36985#p36985 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Marsh crake, Ahuriri Napier :: Reply by bennydog]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=37184#p37184 Given that, it would be a no brainer to approach DOC or whoever and get the go ahead for a private group to take the initiative..
I have a similar situation at Emerau wetland north go Gisborne. DOC loaned me a few broken down traps which I had to re-instate,- no problem ,just time. GDC are not interested so I do it myself with no other volunteers..
It is frustrating I understand... But Ive found going alone is the only way....regards Neil Foster]]>
no_email@example.com (bennydog) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=37184#p37184 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 12:34:59 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6337&p=37184#p37184
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Waikato Seawatching & Shorebirding :: Author RussCannings]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7803&p=37189#p37189
Today was the winter Kawhia/Aotea Harbour Census and since it wasn't kicking off until 11am I headed to the coast early to get in some extra birding.

Started off at Ruapuke Beach and Ruapuke Rock (SW of Mt Karioi) and enjoyed one of the better seawatches I've had off the Waikato west coast. By "better" I mean--"not horrible". Typically I'm happy to spot a few Fluttering Shearwaters and some distant gannets but thanks to some stiff westerlies overnight and a few latent breezes in the morning, I was heartened when the first bird that came into the scope was a Buller's Albatross! There seemed to be a lot of tern and gannet action several kilometers out but it was near impossible to identify anything other than gannets and WFTs. After around 50 minutes of scoping I ended up with the following:

White-capped Albatross- 5
Buller's Albatross- 1
Prion sp.- 5 (Probably Fairy but who knows--maybe actually Antarctic?--Too far out and likely more among the bait balls near Gannet Island)
Fluttering Shearwater- 100 (Conservative, following bait balls in distance)
Shearwater sp.- 1 (Appeared larger and darker)
Common Diving Petrel- 1
Australasian Gannet- 75+ (All adults)
Black-backed Gull- 8
White-fronted Tern- 250+ (Conservative)

From there I worked my way south along the Aotea Harbour to Kawhia. Lots of the usual estuary birds including 34 spoonbill but was particularly pleased to come across a male tomtit in a patch of native bush near the SE corner of the Aotea Harbour.

Met up with Bruce Postill and the gang in Kawhia and was on the Te Motu Island team. While there was virtually nothing on the island itself (Let alone any kaki), the sandbanks in front were productive with unusual additions to the godwits and sipo being 1 turnstone and 1 whimbrel. The latter bird had no pale contrast whatsoever in the rump which possibly suggests hudsonicus (North American variety)--but I understand this is variable? No photographs of the bird in flight sadly. Also 8 NZ Dot and around 380 Bandies.

And that was about it. On the way home I bumped into Bob R at Lake Ngaroto where 3 Cattle Egrets were on show north of the lake (Down from the 20+ that are usually around).

Hope you all had a great weekend :)

Russ C
Morrinsville, NZ]]>
no_email@example.com (RussCannings) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7803&p=37189#p37189 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 18:44:40 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7803&p=37189#p37189
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: First SIPO of spring :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5945&p=37171#p37171 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5945&p=37171#p37171 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:00:10 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5945&p=37171#p37171 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: First SIPO of spring :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5945&p=37199#p37199 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5945&p=37199#p37199 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:58:36 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5945&p=37199#p37199 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by George Hobson]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=36997#p36997 no_email@example.com (George Hobson) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=36997#p36997 Sat, 26 May 2018 16:55:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=36997#p36997 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37007#p37007 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37007#p37007 Mon, 28 May 2018 11:40:47 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37007#p37007 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Alan Tennyson]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37015#p37015 no_email@example.com (Alan Tennyson) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37015#p37015 Tue, 29 May 2018 14:43:40 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37015#p37015 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37016#p37016 no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37016#p37016 Tue, 29 May 2018 15:43:08 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37016#p37016 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Cookeman]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37027#p37027 Chris Cooke]]> no_email@example.com (Cookeman) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37027#p37027 Wed, 30 May 2018 12:18:13 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37027#p37027 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37030#p37030 no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37030#p37030 Wed, 30 May 2018 13:31:07 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37030#p37030 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37051#p37051
Blacktailed Godwit was also present and showing really well on the mudflats amongst the bar tailed godwits. It was the only bird we saw with any colour on it which makes identification really easy! Beautiful dark red head.]]>
no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37051#p37051 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 18:36:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37051#p37051
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Colin Miskelly]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37107#p37107 Cheers
Colin & Kate (plus David Thomas joined us for a while)]]>
no_email@example.com (Colin Miskelly) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37107#p37107 Wed, 06 Jun 2018 19:58:31 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37107#p37107
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Peter Hodge]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37110#p37110 no_email@example.com (Peter Hodge) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37110#p37110 Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:26:15 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37110#p37110 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Grahame]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37150#p37150 Grahame]]> no_email@example.com (Grahame) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37150#p37150 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:58:12 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37150#p37150 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Grahame]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37181#p37181 Grahame]]> no_email@example.com (Grahame) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37181#p37181 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 10:50:07 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37181#p37181 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Grahame]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37183#p37183 Grahame]]> no_email@example.com (Grahame) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37183#p37183 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 11:21:38 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37183#p37183 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37196#p37196 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37196#p37196 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:34:43 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37196#p37196 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Grahame]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37204#p37204 no_email@example.com (Grahame) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37204#p37204 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:01:34 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37204#p37204 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37211#p37211 no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37211#p37211 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:29:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37211#p37211 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern Shoveler at Miranda :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37213#p37213 no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37213#p37213 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:59:46 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6987&p=37213#p37213 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Author Nikki McArthur]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37163#p37163
I’m at the Nelson WTP at the moment, and have just spotted a male Northern shoveler. Hanging out with a large mixed flock of Aust. shoveler, grey teal etc, near where the red-necked phalarope had been reported & where the flock of pied stilts often roost & forage.

I bumped into Rebecca Bowater while watching this bird, and she managed to get a reasonably good photograph, so will hopefully post a record shot of this bird in the next day or two...

Cheers,
Nikki]]>
no_email@example.com (Nikki McArthur) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37163#p37163 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:00:20 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37163#p37163
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by Patrick Crowe]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37167#p37167
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no_email@example.com (Patrick Crowe) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37167#p37167 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 19:22:11 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37167#p37167
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no_email@example.com (Nikki McArthur) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37168#p37168 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 19:36:29 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37168#p37168
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37170#p37170 I'm hoping one will eventually get to Bromley oxidation ponds as I still need it !!]]> no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37170#p37170 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 20:58:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37170#p37170 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37174#p37174
Asian Northern shovelers tends to breed 1-2 months later than European Northern shovelers.

Shoveler flies at 100 k/m while Bar-tailed godwits fly at 80 k/m.

Eslipse plumages of Asian Northern shovelers, are on August to November, with autumntime migration happen as soon as flight feathers are fully grown, after a month of growing the flight feathers.

Mallard ducks took 40 days to regrow the flight feathers, with ducks start to fly short distances to exercise when still growing outer primaries were 30 days old and not fully grown.]]>
no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37174#p37174 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:12:00 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37174#p37174
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by Steve Wood]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37178#p37178
This isn't the first time either something has turned up on my patch after a twitch. Just hang around and wait?......
I don't think I could do that Andrew.]]>
no_email@example.com (Steve Wood) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37178#p37178 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 07:25:21 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37178#p37178
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by Ian Southey]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37180#p37180
Ian]]>
no_email@example.com (Ian Southey) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37180#p37180 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:55:22 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37180#p37180
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37187#p37187 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37187#p37187 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 18:26:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37187#p37187 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by Ian Southey]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37205#p37205
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no_email@example.com (Ian Southey) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37205#p37205 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 09:39:10 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37205#p37205
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37206#p37206 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37206#p37206 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 09:44:48 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37206#p37206 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by Ian Southey]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37207#p37207
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no_email@example.com (Ian Southey) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37207#p37207 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 09:48:23 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37207#p37207
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no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37210#p37210 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:09:10 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37210#p37210
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by Amber Calman]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37215#p37215
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There was a couple of other white-ish chested birds that do stand-out but he stands out a lot more.
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I also scanned for females but they would be very hard to see, I've got lots of photos to check though.

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no_email@example.com (Amber Calman) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37215#p37215 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:41:55 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37215#p37215
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Northern shoveler, Nelson WTP :: Reply by sav]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37219#p37219
Brilliant stuff. A couple of questions and observations from me. I'm travelling without any of my reference material:

Is there anything in the plumage to separate North American from European/Asian Northern Shovelers? With the small number that are ever seen in Aus, I wonder if ours might have come from the "other" direction?

Females? Of course they are much harder (though not impossible) to pin down, but for pretty much any species prone to vagrancy it is (normally young) males that are the most likely. So there may well be females here as well, but not necessarily so.

I'm in Britain at the moment, and just for the record all the Northern Shovelers that I have seen in the past couple of weeks (and there are lots here!) are well past the pristine plumage of any of these drakes - so I think Ian's comment above about Northern/Southern hemisphere moult cycles is probably redundant.

For those of British origin this might be interesting: I went to RSPB Burton Mere on the Wirral, where 400 (four hundred!) Little Egrets roost!! Best bird there for me was flowering Bee Orchids!

cheers]]>
no_email@example.com (sav) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37219#p37219 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 20:56:15 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7800&p=37219#p37219
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Carolina wood ducks, Hamilton :: Reply by takoda farm]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37145#p37145 Did you ever get the name from rukuhia for the guy over the back fence that breeds mandarin ducks. I am after a drake to go with my hen.
Many thanks Norman.]]>
no_email@example.com (takoda farm) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37145#p37145 Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:52:15 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37145#p37145
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Carolina wood ducks, Hamilton :: Reply by rukuhia]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37149#p37149 no_email@example.com (rukuhia) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37149#p37149 Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:05:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37149#p37149 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Carolina wood ducks, Hamilton :: Reply by rukuhia]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37154#p37154 no_email@example.com (rukuhia) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37154#p37154 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 17:01:21 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37154#p37154 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Carolina wood ducks, Hamilton :: Reply by GameGirl]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37226#p37226
rukuhia wrote:My neighbor over the back breeds them for sale along with Mandarin ducks. He releases the odd few but most are killed by hawks or botulism he said, consequently his clients are generally back for more after a few months. The prices ranges from $100 - $ 200 each!



Hi there,
I seen you post and was just wondering if you still have contact details for your neighbor that breeds the Carolina wood ducks? I have a breeding pair but would like another pair. Many thanks Sarah]]>
no_email@example.com (GameGirl) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37226#p37226 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:58:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37226#p37226
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Carolina wood ducks, Hamilton :: Reply by rukuhia]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37231#p37231 no_email@example.com (rukuhia) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37231#p37231 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:32:23 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=701&p=37231#p37231 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Brown Booby, Omaha Cove, Leigh :: Author edinatw]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37217#p37217

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no_email@example.com (edinatw) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37217#p37217 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:12:59 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37217#p37217
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Brown Booby, Omaha Cove, Leigh :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37218#p37218 ]]> no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37218#p37218 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:51:49 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37218#p37218 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Brown Booby, Omaha Cove, Leigh :: Reply by Tony Whitehead]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37221#p37221 no_email@example.com (Tony Whitehead) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37221#p37221 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:31:19 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37221#p37221 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Brown Booby, Omaha Cove, Leigh :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37232#p37232 Submit an UBR.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37232#p37232 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 21:41:03 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7806&p=37232#p37232 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Rooks in Hamilton East! :: Author Liam Ballard]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7808&p=37233#p37233 no_email@example.com (Liam Ballard) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7808&p=37233#p37233 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:24:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7808&p=37233#p37233 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Rooks in Hamilton East! :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7808&p=37243#p37243 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7808&p=37243#p37243 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:12:45 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7808&p=37243#p37243 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Record of 2 Pacific Gulls submitted, Punakaiki 25 Feb 2018 :: Reply by Patrick Crowe]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37249#p37249
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S43162874

Looks like a black-back to me]]>
no_email@example.com (Patrick Crowe) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37249#p37249 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 07:45:23 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37249#p37249
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Record of 2 Pacific Gulls submitted, Punakaiki 25 Feb 2018 :: Reply by Colin Miskelly]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37251#p37251
http://rare.birds.org.nz/

Regards
Colin]]>
no_email@example.com (Colin Miskelly) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37251#p37251 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 08:25:49 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37251#p37251
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Record of 2 Pacific Gulls submitted, Punakaiki 25 Feb 2018 :: Reply by Nikki McArthur]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37252#p37252 no_email@example.com (Nikki McArthur) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37252#p37252 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 08:32:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37252#p37252 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Record of 2 Pacific Gulls submitted, Punakaiki 25 Feb 2018 :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37253#p37253 no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37253#p37253 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 08:37:04 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7738&p=37253#p37253 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Little Egret, Foxton Estuary :: Author Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37045#p37045 Myself and Johannes Fischer observed an adult little egret in partial breeding plumage today amongst the godwits and stilts. It was rather approachable and didn’t seem too phased by people.

Also observed were:
1 Kotuku
6 barwits one flagged BEZ
1 red knot with a transmitter (sorry Phil!) flagged ECB
6 banded dotterels
40+ stilts
One white fronted tern
3 caspian tern
10 spoonbills

David]]>
no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37045#p37045 Thu, 31 May 2018 21:31:48 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37045#p37045
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no_email@example.com (imogen) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37071#p37071 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 09:50:14 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37071#p37071
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Little Egret, Foxton Estuary :: Reply by Paul Gibson]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37076#p37076 no_email@example.com (Paul Gibson) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37076#p37076 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 13:06:11 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37076#p37076 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Little Egret, Foxton Estuary :: Reply by philbattley]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37151#p37151 Phil]]> no_email@example.com (philbattley) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37151#p37151 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 09:39:09 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37151#p37151 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Little Egret, Foxton Estuary :: Reply by imogen]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37257#p37257
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no_email@example.com (imogen) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37257#p37257 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:01:51 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7779&p=37257#p37257
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Leucistic Swamp Harrier :: Author nzsam]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37166#p37166

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no_email@example.com (nzsam) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37166#p37166 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 19:20:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37166#p37166
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Leucistic Swamp Harrier :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37176#p37176 no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37176#p37176 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:38:45 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37176#p37176 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Leucistic Swamp Harrier :: Reply by nzsam]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37177#p37177
kelly111 wrote:This is very cool.is this the first time you have see it..

Yes it was the first time.]]>
no_email@example.com (nzsam) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37177#p37177 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:49:20 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37177#p37177
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Leucistic Swamp Harrier :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37188#p37188 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37188#p37188 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 18:40:14 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37188#p37188 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Leucistic Swamp Harrier :: Reply by nzsam]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37222#p37222
Neil Fitzgerald wrote:That is one neat looking harrier. If my memory is correct, bilateral symmetry is a feature of leucism, so those dark primaries suggest you could reasonably call it leucistic.


Thank you for that confirmation Neil.]]>
no_email@example.com (nzsam) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37222#p37222 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:30:30 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37222#p37222
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Leucistic Swamp Harrier :: Reply by nzsam]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37258#p37258 "Clearly not leucistic, but more likely to be a mutation called 'Brown'. See: https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... s_in_birds

I then posted the flight shot and he commented - "Those black primaries suggest to me that it is indeed "Brown". "Brown" is a mutation that causes a qualitative reduction of eumelanin: it breaks down in UV light. In other words, feathers get produced in their normal colour, but quickly fade to white as they bleach in sunlight. You can see that at least the right black primary is still being moulted, suggesting exactly this mutation. Interestingly, this mutation is sex-linked and only females can have it.

So I have learned something :-)]]>
no_email@example.com (nzsam) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37258#p37258 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 20:33:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37258#p37258
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Leucistic Swamp Harrier :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37259#p37259
Now that I look properly, those primaries are not even symetrical. :shock: :roll:
Brown is common, and chances are it is a female, but it could be male. For that it would need to have a brown mother and a normal looking father that also carries the mutation. Not likely.

This thread might be of interest to those who haven't seen it:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=247

In that (and I'll repost here) is a link to another of van Grouw's papers with a nice summary table of the common colour aberrations:
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... s_in_birds]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37259#p37259 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:39:46 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7801&p=37259#p37259
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Author andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37192#p37192
Well today was the winter wader census at Lake Ellesmere and it started with patches of thick fog, 6 degree temperatures, an excessively high lake level, almost no exposed mudflats and only a 50/50 chance that anyone was gonna find anything. The Birds NZ teams set out to points around the northern and western side of the lake, while the CCC ranger teams headed to parts east and south. I left two teams of rangers at rendezvous rock opposite the Halswell rivermouth with a quick roadside lesson on rare bird ID 101 and a general wish of luck. It seemed to work as 10 minutes later they ran straight into a stunning breeding-plumaged Northern Shoveler.

Meanwhile, unbeknown to me (as I'd left my phone at the office and my radio wasn't working) I kept driving further and further away, heading half way down Kaitorete Spit, oblivious to that lifer slipping further and further away. But no worries, I drive into the CCC Kaitorete Reserve, jump up on the tray of the truck, set up and my scope, take a look and BINGO! a male Northern Shoveler! My good camera is broken but I managed to get some record shots with an older camera taken thru the scope. Green head, no crescent, large expansive clean white breast, bright chestnut flanks with no scalloping. THis site was 20km by road from the first bird and 5.4 km across the lake in a straight line.

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I knew that Phil Crutchley was keen to see a Northern Shoveler but he had started his sector 16km west and was heading in my direction but was an unknown distance away. There were too many harriers about and by the time Phil arrived the Northern Shoveler had been flushed and was either among a flock of c.800 Shov/Grey Teal that had moved 100-200m offshore, or amongst another flock of at least 3000 Shov/Grey Teal feeding half-obscured in flooded grass and marsh. We spent half an hour searching but no luck - although (as occurred earlier in the season) there were many aberrant NZ Shoveler with pale breasts and "braces". All of these though had crescents and a varying amount of black splots on sides of breast and flanks. An example below"]]>
no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37192#p37192 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:09:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37192#p37192
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37193#p37193 Northern Shov2.jpg


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And an aberrant nz shov at the same location for comparison

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no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37193#p37193 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:12:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37193#p37193
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37195#p37195
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We walk parallel to the stopbank (see map 2) and out toward a flock of 500+ Shov/Grey Teal on the lake edge, with another 300+ mostly Grey Teal to the north-west and hundreds more small ducks further south-east.

A Harrier keeps buzzing the birds and flushes the small waterfowl flocks away from the shoreline. The light is dark under a heavily overcast later afternoon sky. We can't find the Northern Shoveler, but turn up two small grebes at the end of the fenceline, exactly where the Shoveler was reported. Just beyond them was a pair of Crested Grebe.

Small grebes are a jinx bird on Lake Ellesmere - occasionally reported, always a great distance away under appalling light, and never satisfactorily identified to species. These two were <100m distant, but frequently diving and in grey light. I took photos thru the scope but of horrendously bad quality. They were greyish, dark-faced, dark-crowned, dark-backed, pale throated, pale rear-ended with no rufous and no yellow tear drop. We provisionally identified them as a pair of winter-plumaged Hoary-headed Grebe. Hopefully they'll be relocated tomorrow or later in the week.

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no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37195#p37195 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:33:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37195#p37195
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37197#p37197
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A short while after we spotted it, the cat swam to shore and skulked away like a leopard on a mission


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Moving away from the cat and the grebes we recommence our scanning for the Northern Shoveler. We look east and glass a large several hundred Shov/Grey Teal. Suddenly!! Phil spots it with binocs and grabs for his scope......

But, what the heck?! we suddenly realise there's a low flying (as in <30m) parapant is beating down on us - and the shoveler (never seen one of those at the lake before - esp on a mid-winter's day!). Nuts!

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Terrified every bird for a mile around is about to take flight in panic, we seize quick views of the Northern Shoveler through the scopes and I take an absolutely terrible record shot (but, yeah, you know, its pretty obvious what the bird is!!).

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And just to finish off,...... here's a nice photo of some rabbits!!



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<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37200#p37200 no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37200#p37200 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:05:22 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37200#p37200 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37201#p37201 no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37201#p37201 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:54:43 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37201#p37201 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37202#p37202 Good to see the Canterbury panther is alive and well.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37202#p37202 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:55:34 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37202#p37202 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37203#p37203 Maybe NZs legendary "otter" has been found.....!]]> no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37203#p37203 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:02:53 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37203#p37203 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37208#p37208 20180618_094720.jpg

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no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37209#p37209 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 09:56:46 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37209#p37209
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37220#p37220
andrewcrossland wrote:So, we decide to leave this bird and go back to where Matt Rose, Kenny Rose and the other guys in the CCC teams had found the first Northern Shoveler. Directions were straight out at the fenceline just west of the Royal Spoonbill colony.

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We walk parallel to the stopbank (see map 2) and out toward a flock of 500+ Shov/Grey Teal on the lake edge, with another 300+ mostly Grey Teal to the north-west and hundreds more small ducks further south-east.

A Harrier keeps buzzing the birds and flushes the small waterfowl flocks away from the shoreline. The light is dark under a heavily overcast later afternoon sky. We can't find the Northern Shoveler, but turn up two small grebes at the end of the fenceline, exactly where the Shoveler was reported. Just beyond them was a pair of Crested Grebe.

Small grebes are a jinx bird on Lake Ellesmere - occasionally reported, always a great distance away under appalling light, and never satisfactorily identified to species. These two were <100m distant, but frequently diving and in grey light. I took photos thru the scope but of horrendously bad quality. They were greyish, dark-faced, dark-crowned, dark-backed, pale throated, pale rear-ended with no rufous and no yellow tear drop. We provisionally identified them as a pair of winter-plumaged Hoary-headed Grebe. Hopefully they'll be relocated tomorrow or later in the week.

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me and my son.are going out this weekend to look for it hope to see it.]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37220#p37220 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 21:06:35 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37220#p37220
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Happy birding all.]]>
no_email@example.com (Bev Alexander) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37237#p37237 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:52:37 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37237#p37237
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37241#p37241 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37241#p37241 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:27:20 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37241#p37241 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by GrahameNZ]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37248#p37248 ]]> no_email@example.com (GrahameNZ) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37248#p37248 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:29:39 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37248#p37248 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: If we didn't have photos no-one would believe us! :: Reply by David Melville]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37254#p37254
Northern Shoveler is monotypic – there are no recognised sub-species/races.

It breeds across most of the Palearctic and Nearctic except the high arctic – mostly between 40-60 degrees N, and most winter between 20-40 degrees North.

It is a regular non-breeding season visitor to Hawaii. http://hbs.bishopmuseum.org/birds/rlp-m ... e/NSHO.pdf

However a review noted the need for research to increase ‘understanding of movements of individuals that overfly the Hawaiian Islands’. I have been unable to track down any banding recoveries of birds from the Pacific.

Non-breeding birds regularly occur as far south as the Caribbean and Central America.

There is one record from Peru (11 degrees South) https://boletinunop.weebly.com/uploads/ ... p_vol._7_n°2_2012_-_crap.pdf
and one record from Argentina at 48 degrees South: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2uWlR ... pVSzQ/view
[Lake Ellesmere is 43 degrees South]. It was considered possible that the latter bird might be an escape as there is a captive population in Chile, it was concluded that it was probably a wild individual.

If any hunter bags one in New Zealand it would be very good to get the specimen to a museum and to consider the possibility of looking at stable isotopes to try to determine its geographic origin.

David]]>
no_email@example.com (David Melville) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37254#p37254 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 13:00:47 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7804&p=37254#p37254
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Russ C
Morrinsville, Nz]]>
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<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Author ben]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37223#p37223 Can anyone recognise it please.
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no_email@example.com (ben) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37223#p37223 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:14:49 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37223#p37223
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37224#p37224 no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37224#p37224 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:16:46 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37224#p37224 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by zarkov]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37225#p37225 no_email@example.com (zarkov) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37225#p37225 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:46:23 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37225#p37225 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by Jim_j]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37227#p37227 Is it near where Hunt for the Wilderpeople was filmed....?]]> no_email@example.com (Jim_j) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37227#p37227 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 15:12:39 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37227#p37227 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by bruce.shanks]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37229#p37229 no_email@example.com (bruce.shanks) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37229#p37229 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:32:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37229#p37229 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37230#p37230 no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37230#p37230 Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:50:43 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37230#p37230 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by ben]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37234#p37234 no_email@example.com (ben) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37234#p37234 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:15:35 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37234#p37234 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by Oscar Thomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37240#p37240 no_email@example.com (Oscar Thomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37240#p37240 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:17:23 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37240#p37240 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by David Riddell]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37250#p37250 no_email@example.com (David Riddell) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37250#p37250 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 08:18:10 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37250#p37250 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37255#p37255
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no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37255#p37255 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 15:29:31 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37255#p37255
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Can someone help me with identification of a feather :: Reply by ben]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37262#p37262 no_email@example.com (ben) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37262#p37262 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:54:09 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7807&p=37262#p37262 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37012#p37012 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37012#p37012 Tue, 29 May 2018 11:01:44 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37012#p37012 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by andrewcrossland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37017#p37017 no_email@example.com (andrewcrossland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37017#p37017 Tue, 29 May 2018 17:25:15 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37017#p37017 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37053#p37053
pfe92nz wrote:My wife rang me to say she had seen a Myna and were they common here. I went to the area and sure enough there was a myna (photo to come)
On the red zone land in the block bordered by New Brighton Road, Hawke Street, Keyes Road, Pratt Street.
Was quite happy feeding in the grass with a few starlings nearby.
Maybe an escapee.

John Stewart
hi do you know if it is still there.be good to get a photo of it..]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37053#p37053 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:24:42 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37053#p37053
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37060#p37060
GrahameNZ wrote:Still there this afternoon.
One of the joys of urban birding.
I'd spent five or so minutes going away from it and then using trees to work back close.
Plan A worked well.
It then took flight and as I turned to watch it fly across the river a large dog bounded up to say hi.
Closely followed by its owner.
He asked me what I was taking pics of and appeared rather bemused when I replied nothing :)
We've all been ther and will again, guess it will always give me a bit of an inner smile.

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do you know if it is still there.be good to get a photo...thanks]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37060#p37060 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:26:46 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37060#p37060
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by kengeorge]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37067#p37067 no_email@example.com (kengeorge) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37067#p37067 Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:24:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37067#p37067 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by Michael]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37093#p37093 no_email@example.com (Michael) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37093#p37093 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 23:08:56 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37093#p37093 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by pfe92nz]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37096#p37096 no_email@example.com (pfe92nz) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37096#p37096 Mon, 04 Jun 2018 15:40:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37096#p37096 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by GrahameNZ]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37126#p37126 Plumage is changing.
Today it was chasing Blackbirds away, when it was first found it seemed to be happy being with them.

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no_email@example.com (GrahameNZ) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37126#p37126 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 19:55:56 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37126#p37126
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37128#p37128
GrahameNZ wrote:In it's usual spot this afternoon.
Plumage is changing.
Today it was chasing Blackbirds away, when it was first found it seemed to be happy being with them.

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Hi what is the best spot to see it.]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37128#p37128 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:15:55 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37128#p37128
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by GrahameNZ]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37129#p37129 The piece of red zone land beside the New Brighton Bridge, NE side.
It seems to like the bit at the end by Hawke St.
It's pretty easy to spot if it's about, nothing else walks with such a self confidant gait.
Happy hunting]]>
no_email@example.com (GrahameNZ) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37129#p37129 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:37:35 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37129#p37129
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by Clinton9]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37130#p37130 no_email@example.com (Clinton9) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37130#p37130 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:53:11 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37130#p37130 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37131#p37131
GrahameNZ wrote:Hi Kelly,
The piece of red zone land beside the New Brighton Bridge, NE side.
It seems to like the bit at the end by Hawke St.
It's pretty easy to spot if it's about, nothing else walks with such a self confidant gait.
Happy hunting

Is this the bit of land next to the one way road.next to the river..]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37131#p37131 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 21:04:18 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37131#p37131
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by GrahameNZ]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37132#p37132 no_email@example.com (GrahameNZ) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37132#p37132 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 21:11:24 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37132#p37132 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37133#p37133
GrahameNZ wrote:You've got it, bounded by NB Rd, Hawke St, Keys and Pratt

Cool I have the day off tomorrow so will go have a look.thank you]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37133#p37133 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 21:16:00 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37133#p37133
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by pfe92nz]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37134#p37134 no_email@example.com (pfe92nz) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37134#p37134 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:28:45 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37134#p37134 <![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by kelly111]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37137#p37137
pfe92nz wrote:Was that you parked there on the one way section about 11am Kelly111?
hi yep that was me.but no luck today did not see him.]]>
no_email@example.com (kelly111) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37137#p37137 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 20:59:37 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37137#p37137
<![CDATA[Bird Sightings and Alerts :: Re: Myna in New Brighton, Christchurch :: Reply by pfe92nz]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37264#p37264 New Brighton Road and corner of Brooker Ave, so about 1500m away from where it was before.]]> no_email@example.com (pfe92nz) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37264#p37264 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:05:43 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7691&p=37264#p37264 <![CDATA[South Pacific Birds :: Re: Lord Howe Birding :: Reply by Pete McClelland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37047#p37047 no_email@example.com (Pete McClelland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37047#p37047 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 06:44:10 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37047#p37047 <![CDATA[South Pacific Birds :: Re: Lord Howe Birding :: Reply by Pete McClelland]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37247#p37247 no_email@example.com (Pete McClelland) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37247#p37247 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:27:47 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37247#p37247 <![CDATA[South Pacific Birds :: Re: Lord Howe Birding :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37266#p37266 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37266#p37266 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 12:35:25 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2698&p=37266#p37266 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: NaturewatchNZ :: Author flossiepip]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36986#p36986 no_email@example.com (flossiepip) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36986#p36986 Fri, 25 May 2018 11:24:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36986#p36986 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: NaturewatchNZ :: Reply by Davidthomas]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36988#p36988 http://iNaturalist.nz]]> no_email@example.com (Davidthomas) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36988#p36988 Fri, 25 May 2018 12:12:32 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36988#p36988 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: NaturewatchNZ :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36989#p36989 Thanks for the update David.]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36989#p36989 Fri, 25 May 2018 12:47:38 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36989#p36989 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: NaturewatchNZ :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36990#p36990 http://inaturalist.nz/blog/16686-nature ... uralist-nz

It was unexpected and due to a "third party".
Members are invited to discuss the path forward on the page I linked to above.]]>
no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36990#p36990 Fri, 25 May 2018 12:51:36 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7767&p=36990#p36990
<![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: A little green gem :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7751&p=36992#p36992 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7751&p=36992#p36992 Fri, 25 May 2018 15:38:38 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7751&p=36992#p36992 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Green Turtle, Bay of Islands :: Author Michael Szabo]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37002#p37002
Link: https://scontent.fpmr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5B8D309D]]>
no_email@example.com (Michael Szabo) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37002#p37002 Sun, 27 May 2018 18:44:17 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37002#p37002
<![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: Green Turtle, Bay of Islands :: Reply by cthrnjayne]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37003#p37003 no_email@example.com (cthrnjayne) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37003#p37003 Sun, 27 May 2018 20:06:22 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37003#p37003 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: Green Turtle, Bay of Islands :: Reply by Michael Szabo]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37013#p37013 no_email@example.com (Michael Szabo) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37013#p37013 Tue, 29 May 2018 11:07:58 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7770&p=37013#p37013 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Giant grouper, Bay of Islands :: Author Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7777&p=37032#p37032 https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... e-tropical]]> no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7777&p=37032#p37032 Wed, 30 May 2018 16:43:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7777&p=37032#p37032 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: Giant grouper, Bay of Islands :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7777&p=37035#p37035 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7777&p=37035#p37035 Wed, 30 May 2018 20:37:11 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7777&p=37035#p37035 <![CDATA[Other Natural History :: 3 marine turtles found dead in NZ with plastic inside :: Author Michael Szabo]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7780&p=37048#p37048
Photo of turtle: https://scontent.fpmr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5B79936E

Photo of plastic waste removed: https://scontent.fpmr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5BBC7FE9]]>
no_email@example.com (Michael Szabo) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7780&p=37048#p37048 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:09:40 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7780&p=37048#p37048
<![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Banded Sea Snake, Tauranga Bridge Marina :: Author Michael Szabo]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7798&p=37156#p37156
Link to story: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plent ... ref=NZH_fb

Link to photo: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zeal ... 8-1120.jpg]]>
no_email@example.com (Michael Szabo) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7798&p=37156#p37156 Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:54:16 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7798&p=37156#p37156
<![CDATA[Other Natural History :: Re: Banded Sea Snake, Tauranga Bridge Marina :: Reply by Neil Fitzgerald]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7798&p=37159#p37159 no_email@example.com (Neil Fitzgerald) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7798&p=37159#p37159 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 08:33:41 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7798&p=37159#p37159 <![CDATA[Events :: Bird of the Year 2018 :: Author kimbirdley]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7773&p=37011#p37011
Just thought I would let you know that Forest & Bird's annual Bird of the Year competition will be running from 1st - 15th of October this years.

It's during the school holidays, which means it's a great way to get kids involved.

If anyone's interested in being a campaign manager or knows of any celebrities/enthusiastic people who would be interested, please get in touch with me.

kimberley@fledgemedia.co.nz]]>
no_email@example.com (kimbirdley) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7773&p=37011#p37011 Tue, 29 May 2018 10:50:02 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7773&p=37011#p37011
<![CDATA[Events :: Regular Albatross Trip Kaikoura :: Author Bennyboy87654]]> http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7788&p=37106#p37106 I want to do a Albatross encounter trip out of Kakikoura at 9am on Saturday (this saturday) no one is booked at the moment so trip won't go ahead, but thought I'd ask if anyone would like to do one.
Would just be a regular 2.5hr trip nothing special

Cheers]]>
no_email@example.com (Bennyboy87654) http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7788&p=37106#p37106 Wed, 06 Jun 2018 18:42:05 +1200 http://www.birdingnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7788&p=37106#p37106