dotterel and tern ID

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Aaron Harmer
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dotterel and tern ID

Postby Aaron Harmer » Thu May 22, 2014 11:58 am

Hi, I'm reasonably new to birding and very new to NZ (just moved here 2 months ago), and was wondering if I can get some help with some IDs.

I'm pretty certain the first bird is a banded dotterel.
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But, this second bird is confusing me a bit. I would say it's a NZ dotterel based on the dumpier body and greyer colouring but the darkish collar and hint of red on the upper breast are throwing me.
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They were both also in close proximity to this NZ dotterel.
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I would say the next bird is a white-fronted tern, but wasn't sure how to rule out a common tern in basic plumage.
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Finally, out of interest, the crested tern was still at Waipu on 20th May, seen from the walkway opposite Estuary View Heights.
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Thanks, in advance for any help.
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Re: dotterel and tern ID

Postby Davidthomas » Thu May 22, 2014 1:01 pm

1) is definitely a banded-dott. you can tell based on its size and browny colouration on the face as well as the strong band across the top of its breast. A juvenile i think?

2) Its definitely a NZ dott. for the reasons you lay out, they will have variable amounts of red colouration based on age/sex/time of year. If it was a sand dott it would be less plump and a more distinct head relative to the body.

4) Its a white-fronted tern, lacks the black band on the upper wing/shoulder area. Also lacks darker tail feathers that you'd expect from a common tern.

Hope this is useful!
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Re: dotterel and tern ID

Postby Aaron Harmer » Thu May 22, 2014 4:42 pm

Thanks David, that helps a lot. I think I need to stop second guessing my original feeling so much.

Cheers.
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Re: dotterel and tern ID

Postby Davidthomas » Thu May 22, 2014 7:40 pm

https://www.flickr.com/photos/0ystercatcher/7371383920/ Just as a reference for the banded dotterel.

Yeah i know what you mean, but always best to make sure you've got the right I.D.'s!

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