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Are these brown teal or scaup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:09 pm
by WillB
Central Auckland sighting of brown teal? ..can anyone help confirm, please?

Re: Are these brown teal or scaup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:15 am
by SomesBirder
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Re: Are these brown teal or scaup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:24 am
by Ian McLean
Hello Will
Whereabouts in Auckland is this ?
Stonefields Wetland in Mt Wellington & nearby Waiatarua Reserve in Remuera are two sites where Scaup & Pateke are often seen.
Cheers
Ian

Re: Are these brown teal or scaup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:00 am
by RussCannings
I can see where the teal-theory comes from, but I believe these are all NZ Scaup--the larger one is an adult female and the smaller/fuzzy ones are juvenile scaup. The eye-ring is a misleading feature however the head/bill/body shape is better for scaup as is the fairly uniform brown plumage. Even at a young age, Brown Teal show fairly obvious pale fringes to the flank feathers, and the head/bill profile is more evenly rounded or elongated like most dabbling ducks (as opposed to the more compact or even peaked crowns of NZ Scaup).

The left-hand bird in the second image has potential but I think it's just one of the same juvies at a weird angle.

Russ C

Re: Are these brown teal or scaup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:52 pm
by Kevin_Evans
Scaup, but don't worry, I field at least 1 or 2 calls a month of people thinking they have seen pateke that turn out to be scaup.

Re: Are these brown teal or scaup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:04 pm
by Jan
Hey, Somes,
It was from photos and I would have said what you did. What are you doing now? Don't bother about getting it a bit .....iffy.

Re: Are these brown teal or scaup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:25 am
by Finn Davey
Looks like an adult female with her juveniles