NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby kelly111 » Sun May 24, 2020 1:52 pm

Just got to see the Dabchick so that was good and one more off the list. Will put some photos up when home.
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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby Adam C » Sun May 24, 2020 2:34 pm

Nice to see you out there Kelly! Sorry I had to rush off! was running late!

Some more shots of the lighter bird attached. I thiiiiiink I'm still in the Immature Dabchick camp but the bill is very pale. Anyone else weighing in on it being a Non-breeding Hoary?
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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby kelly111 » Sun May 24, 2020 2:45 pm

Adam C wrote:Nice to see you out there Kelly! Sorry I had to rush off! was running late!

Some more shots of the lighter bird attached. I thiiiiiink I'm still in the Immature Dabchick camp but the bill is very pale. Anyone else weighing in on it being a Non-breeding Hoary?
yes good to see you out there.so you think this is a immature one.is the 2nd one that has been seen the same as this or is different.
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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby Adam C » Sun May 24, 2020 3:08 pm

It's a classic adult which was absent today but there on my first visit when we saw the Bittern.

The above bird is most likely an Immature NZ Dabchick or less likely a Nonbreeding hoary headed Grebe as floated by Jan earlier in this thread but I'm sure somebody else on here will have more idea than I do.

Photos below of the darker adult NZ Dabchick from first visit.
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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby AlanShaw » Sun May 24, 2020 4:30 pm

I would say the first bird is certainly not a Hoary-headed by the rufous breast (pale in both seasons for Hoary-headed) and the lack of a white tip to the bill. My view is that it's either an aberrant NZ Dabchick or a hybrid.
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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby kelly111 » Sun May 24, 2020 7:30 pm

Adam C wrote:It's a classic adult which was absent today but there on my first visit when we saw the Bittern.

The above bird is most likely an Immature NZ Dabchick or less likely a Nonbreeding hoary headed Grebe as floated by Jan earlier in this thread but I'm sure somebody else on here will have more idea than I do.

Photos below of the darker adult NZ Dabchick from first visit.
Nice photos m8. What set up are you using.
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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby Adam C » Sun May 24, 2020 10:58 pm

Just a scuzzy old Nikon P1000 but does 90% of what I need for record shots. Thanks Kelly. Yr shots will have way better resolution viewed large!
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Re: NZ Dabchicks at Pegasus wetland.

Postby Jan » Mon May 25, 2020 11:07 am

I did think this bird was different, and the upright long neck seemed more hoary-headed than Dabchick. I asked Paul Sco and he had thought it might be a hybrid bird and had spent a lot of time looking at it. He suggests we keep an eye on it to see how it develops. Imm HHG don't have white-tipped beaks but I admit it has much more rufous in the breast than HHG. The main thing is whether Dabchick are breeding there, I think, which would be exciting, not fussing over the exact parentage of one many photographed bird.

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